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a day later, karl rove tried to backtrack. in a statement, rove said, i was ask fundamental i could see a republican presidential candidate supporting gay marriage in 2016, and i said i could. i was not asked if i could see the republican presidential candidate or the gop presidential nominee." as for the latest "washington post" poll showing the country's support of marriage equality at an all-time high, the religious right's gary bauer sounded a familiar note. >> do you worry that this only puts the republican party further out of touch with the mainstream of american voters? >> no, i'm not worried about it, because the polls are skewed, chris. >> the polls are skewed. not but five months ago, republican poll deniers were in full swing. and we know how far that got them. let us bring in jonathan turley, a professor of constitutional law at george washington university, jonathan capehart, opinion writer for "the washington post," and ryan grim, washington bureau chief for the "huffington post." ryan, i can't believe we're tal
a day later, karl rove tried to backtrack. in a statement, rove said, i was ask fundamental i could see a republican presidential candidate supporting gay marriage in 2016, and i said i could. i was not asked if i could see the republican presidential candidate or the gop presidential nominee." as for the latest "washington post" poll showing the country's support of marriage equality at an all-time high, the religious right's gary bauer sounded a familiar note. >> do you...
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we haven't had a chance to go to karl rove. karl rove is out there demagoguing this issue saying if you have background check you're going to have a national registry and confiscation is just down the road. thank you, mark. we have to keep up this fight. thank you, chief. >>> coming up, the biggest week ever on gay marriage. the supreme court is hearing two cases this week. one on california's prop 8. the other on the defense of marriage act, doma. will the supreme court follow public opinion? or will it stand and yell, stop? >>> in the 1970s the republican party began two decades in the wilderness when it swung too far to the left from where the country was at the time. now it's the republican party's turn. new polling suggests the gop is at its worst. the hard right is trying to keep itself in office and the party out of the white house, it seems. >>> remember last year how republicans were insisting all the calls were dead wrong right up until mitt romney actually lost? with those numbers? and even after that? well, they're
we haven't had a chance to go to karl rove. karl rove is out there demagoguing this issue saying if you have background check you're going to have a national registry and confiscation is just down the road. thank you, mark. we have to keep up this fight. thank you, chief. >>> coming up, the biggest week ever on gay marriage. the supreme court is hearing two cases this week. one on california's prop 8. the other on the defense of marriage act, doma. will the supreme court follow public...
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my worry-- and i think one of the paradoxes of this-- if i were karl rove right now i'd be praying for "loving v. virginia. " it takes it off the table and -- >> rose: what is "loving v. virginia?" >> that was the landmark case which finally struck down anti-miscegenation laws in the states that still held them at the same which were still very popular in those states, i have to say, at the time. and what happened until now was that gay marriage was a wedge issue which got the republican votes. increasingly their attachment to being against this and being hostile to gays is losing them generation after generation. >> rose: karl rove would want it to be taken off the table? >> taken off the table and democrats would use it as a wedge issue against them. my view, for what it's worth, is that i want the court to take a rather restrained view on this. i think they should absolutely say one, if your state marriage is valid the federal government has no option but to recognize it. my marriage license in massachusetts is identical to the marriage licenses of every straight person so on what g
my worry-- and i think one of the paradoxes of this-- if i were karl rove right now i'd be praying for "loving v. virginia. " it takes it off the table and -- >> rose: what is "loving v. virginia?" >> that was the landmark case which finally struck down anti-miscegenation laws in the states that still held them at the same which were still very popular in those states, i have to say, at the time. and what happened until now was that gay marriage was a wedge issue...
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and they are opposed to this. >> and real quick, i have to let you go but i have to ask about karl rove saying he can manning the next presidential candidate, republican saying flat out that he is for gay marriage. his response was a question that he was asked, he said he could manning it. >> i guess you theoretically could. marco rubio could end up being that 2016 choice is against gay marriage. when you get to a republican primary season, when everything is on the table. there is tons of back ask forth between candidates, that the candidate in favor of gay marriage, it could be a liability in places like the iowa caucuses and other conservative presidential primaries. >> it is good to see you. >>> coming up, secretary of state john kerry makes an unannounced stop in kabul. sources say he is there to mend fences with afghan's -- afghanistan's president karzai. we'll get a live report from kabul. >>> plus, actor kelsey grammar is again talking about running for office. what is he saying about his multiple marriages? and his drug abuse? just one of those things we thought you should know
and they are opposed to this. >> and real quick, i have to let you go but i have to ask about karl rove saying he can manning the next presidential candidate, republican saying flat out that he is for gay marriage. his response was a question that he was asked, he said he could manning it. >> i guess you theoretically could. marco rubio could end up being that 2016 choice is against gay marriage. when you get to a republican primary season, when everything is on the table. there is...
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that's when, as you pointed out, he was talking about -- serious karl rove discussing the politics of the easter egg roll. >> that was on fox on friday. the easter egg roll tied in with the massively important issue of the white house tours and stuff like that. but you know, so karl rove says the next republican nominee could support gay marriage and they're obviously going to be -- i assume they'll be completely different on immigration and so this is -- this goes to the tension, you know. this right wing civil war and it's being waged quietly now because there's not a ton at stake in terms of elections but my gosh. ten years ago if you had thought a republican -- and republican leaders are basically urging politicians to embrace gay marriage, you know, the opposition which has been a cornerstone in the previous decade. suddenly embrace immigration reform and things like that. so you know, i don't think it is being done out of goodwill, honestly. i think is being done out of flip flopping and watching the polls. this is where the tension comes from, ralph reed talking about evangelic
that's when, as you pointed out, he was talking about -- serious karl rove discussing the politics of the easter egg roll. >> that was on fox on friday. the easter egg roll tied in with the massively important issue of the white house tours and stuff like that. but you know, so karl rove says the next republican nominee could support gay marriage and they're obviously going to be -- i assume they'll be completely different on immigration and so this is -- this goes to the tension, you...
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>> i could. >> and that's all karl rove would say. i'm joined by san francisco city town dennis herrera and austin nimox. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> thank you for having us. >> austin, you heard what karl rove just said. are you on the wrong side of history? >> the only side of history with regard to marriage is the right one regarding the truth. and that really should be decided by the american people. americans have an inevitable and inalienable right to determine our own history and that's really a fundamental aspect of america. we have a massive political debate going on in this country about marriage. and the last thing we need is the supreme court to take this debate away from the american people, print a 50 state solution to the marriage question. that's not what we want. we have democratic institutions for a reason and we need to keep using them as we debate marriage, its meaning and its importance to our society. >> and dennis, prop 8 was approved by voters in california. you want the u.s. supreme court to
>> i could. >> and that's all karl rove would say. i'm joined by san francisco city town dennis herrera and austin nimox. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> thank you for having us. >> austin, you heard what karl rove just said. are you on the wrong side of history? >> the only side of history with regard to marriage is the right one regarding the truth. and that really should be decided by the american people. americans have an inevitable and...
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karl rove said that he could imagine a 2016 gop candidate in favor of gay marriage. wow. but will the supreme court's decision bring ground breaking change. joining me to discuss this is our political friend christine pelosi, chair of the california democratic party women's caucus, and she shares the party platform when they adopted marriage equality. what is at steak? >> most immediately at steak are the 18,000 same-sex couples which got married. so what the court could do is rule narrowly on behalf of those california couples and say look, you got married because the supreme court recognized the constitutional right to marry in california, we find those marriages to be valid, we are throwing out prop 8. so the most narrow victory would be a victory for the 18,000 same-sex couples. more broodly of course the court could recognize the constitutional right to marry in the 14th amendment, and it's prohibition against denying liberty rights and demanding equal protection. >> michael: is the narrow victory a victory? just the 18,000 cases? >> equality is inevitable. i would l
karl rove said that he could imagine a 2016 gop candidate in favor of gay marriage. wow. but will the supreme court's decision bring ground breaking change. joining me to discuss this is our political friend christine pelosi, chair of the california democratic party women's caucus, and she shares the party platform when they adopted marriage equality. what is at steak? >> most immediately at steak are the 18,000 same-sex couples which got married. so what the court could do is rule...
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if you want to go back to 2004, karl rove and the bush, george w. bush campaign, engineered the placing of ballot measures in several states to turn out the conservative vote to help george w. bush. a state like ohio, for example. i think that politics is completely being turned on its head. we're watching it happen minute by minute. there is almost a comical stampede on the part of democrats to get on the right side of this issue. there is a bullet in every five minutes. i think they should get decreasing points for how long it takes them to do that. >> seriously. to wait for dick cheney? >> no points. >> no points after rob portman or rob portman's sons in the daily news. and i think dick cheney had a lot to do with it. i think by 2016, i think republicans are the ones who will have a very, very tough time with this issue. and this is classic wedge politics where the idea is to divide your opponent's base. the republicans will be divide between their libertarian base which is more on the economic side and the he evangelical side which they built t
if you want to go back to 2004, karl rove and the bush, george w. bush campaign, engineered the placing of ballot measures in several states to turn out the conservative vote to help george w. bush. a state like ohio, for example. i think that politics is completely being turned on its head. we're watching it happen minute by minute. there is almost a comical stampede on the part of democrats to get on the right side of this issue. there is a bullet in every five minutes. i think they should...
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karl rove on abc this morning. the two plans lawmakers will take up when they come back from spring break. the senate budget passed early yesterday. could not be more different than the house version. according to the "new york times," the senate plan calls for nearly $1 trillion in new taxes, modest cuts in government spending but leaves the government with $566 billion in annual deficits over the next ten years. the house plan balances the budget by 2023 with big cuts in domestic spending and major changes to medicare and the tax code. charlie rangel, new york's most famous congressman, is here with me. former chair of the house ways and means committee. start with the chasm between the two plans. is there room for compromise at all between the senate and house plan? >> the major difference is that, obama and most of the country that voted for him really thinks that a time of recession that we're coming out of it that we should be creating jobs and not laying off people just with cuts. that is the difference. the
karl rove on abc this morning. the two plans lawmakers will take up when they come back from spring break. the senate budget passed early yesterday. could not be more different than the house version. according to the "new york times," the senate plan calls for nearly $1 trillion in new taxes, modest cuts in government spending but leaves the government with $566 billion in annual deficits over the next ten years. the house plan balances the budget by 2023 with big cuts in domestic...
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. >> i think actually, karl rove ironically deserves a lot of the credit for it. in 2004, the republican party put a bunch of anti-gay marriage issues on different state ballots to drive out evangelical voters. what it did is it took an issue that had not necessarily been partisan before and turned it into a deeply part son one. that meant that democrats now had to decide whether they were against gay marriage, for gay marriage, for civil unions, against civil unions. as soon as you make the democratic party decide on a civil rights issue, they will shift eventually -- it's going to take some time, but they will eventually get there. what you saw is rapidly over the next several years, the democratic party moved in favor of gay marriage. once gay marriage then became legalized in different states, people went to weddings, people bought gifts, people's relatives and friends started getting married, and they saw that the institution of marriage wasn't any better or worse than it was before this happened. the sky didn't fall, and now you're seeing the polls surge as
. >> i think actually, karl rove ironically deserves a lot of the credit for it. in 2004, the republican party put a bunch of anti-gay marriage issues on different state ballots to drive out evangelical voters. what it did is it took an issue that had not necessarily been partisan before and turned it into a deeply part son one. that meant that democrats now had to decide whether they were against gay marriage, for gay marriage, for civil unions, against civil unions. as soon as you make...
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. >> so, ben, no love lost between karl rove and sarah palin. how quickly do you think reince priebus and folks at rnc want to get stars like rove and palin and moving forward? >> well, if sarah palin wins this fight, i think you'll see the republican party in tatters like it was during the goldwater days. you're laying the groundwork for somebody like rand paul to win the iowa caucus us. chairman priebus made all the right recommendations. i would have gone further and said challenge your electorate. challenge your base. open up those primaries to independents. then you'll get republican candidates incentive to run to the center instead of to the right of rand paul. if those candidates win out you'll see democrats do very well in the midterms and four years. >> real quick guys, element number four of the cpac straw poll it puts rand paul in at 25%. marco rubio at 23%. so we have a leader there. our power panel, perry bacon, ben labolt, susan del percio. thank you. >>> university of central florida's main campus in orlando will reopen and classe
. >> so, ben, no love lost between karl rove and sarah palin. how quickly do you think reince priebus and folks at rnc want to get stars like rove and palin and moving forward? >> well, if sarah palin wins this fight, i think you'll see the republican party in tatters like it was during the goldwater days. you're laying the groundwork for somebody like rand paul to win the iowa caucus us. chairman priebus made all the right recommendations. i would have gone further and said...
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. >> interesting theory advanced in your huffington post today, sam stein, what nia mentioned, karl rove running against marriage equality provoked democrats into more of a spirited defense of it and more alignment with it, because rove kind of forced the issue. >> i mean remember, in 2004 in states like ohio, it was such a divisive issue, same sex marriage, you had people very protective on one hand and scared on the other. over four years, what we have had in terms of political conversation is a number of people that had personal experiences with gay members of the family or communities, so it is affecting people not just in democratic circles but republican circles. rob portman this past week, his son is gay, that effected him. we had a number of top conservative donors in the tri-state area that have become devoted to the gay rights cause in part because of family members and are bank rolling candidates on that issue. that as much as anything else has been a huge boost to the lbgt movement. >> listen to john boehner that insists no matter how many relatives he has who may want marria
. >> interesting theory advanced in your huffington post today, sam stein, what nia mentioned, karl rove running against marriage equality provoked democrats into more of a spirited defense of it and more alignment with it, because rove kind of forced the issue. >> i mean remember, in 2004 in states like ohio, it was such a divisive issue, same sex marriage, you had people very protective on one hand and scared on the other. over four years, what we have had in terms of political...